Gay Sex Splilts Bishops

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What should the CofE be trying to sort out?

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People think the Anglican church is obsessed with sex in a battle over homosexuality that "very few really want to be fighting", Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams said on Monday.

The Anglican communion, a loose federation of 38 national churches, has been split between a liberal minority and a conservative majority, especially since the naming of an openly gay United States bishop in 2003.

After a tense meeting of church leaders in the Tanzanian city of Dar Es Salaam this month, the Anglican Communion gave the US Episcopal Church a September deadline to stop blessing same sex unions.

Speaking to the Church of England synod, the spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans said: "It feels as though we are caught in a battle very few really want to be fighting, like soldiers in the trenches somewhere around 1916."

So the good old CofE is in trouble again.This time over whether or not homosexuals should be treated as human beings or cast into an eternal pit of firey damnation. The problem arises because those wacky Yanks have appointed an openly gay bishop (makes you wonder how many are still in the closet) and are blessing gay partnerships. The more conservative African branches are dead set against it. Meanwhile the English are stuck in the middle.

Is this the end of brotherly love?

Pray tell us below.

Unfortunately it wasn't the most macho of outfits.

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PopeBasher (01-03-2007 13:12:10)

There must be a lot of catholics reading this, because Child Abuse is currently the poll winner.

garethwi (01-03-2007 12:28:19)

Well, you default all of my counter arguments with that.

revrobuk (01-03-2007 10:49:47)

Of course the Bible's a pro-gay handbook. Why else would bishops dress like that?

garethwi (01-03-2007 06:10:02)

revrobuk: Ah, but 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 only mentions homosexuals in the later translations.

You could just be Robert Robinson with that sentence. Would that it were, would that it were.

garethwi (01-03-2007 05:21:41)

While my argument may be trashed, it just supports my underlying feeling that religions invalidate themselves when people start reinterpreting them for their own gains.

Anyway Rob, do you really think the Bible was some pro-gay handbook?

Isn't it all just.... (01-03-2007 04:42:42)

...a load of old rubbish anyway?

I mean; "todays news, tomorrow's fish and chip paper" and all that. These 'scriptures' were probably just a bunch of scribblings that didn't make it to the chippy.

Ok, next item on the agenda is.... Hieroglyphics - language of Gods, or just graffiti?

revrobuk (28-02-2007 23:04:23)

In short, you shouldn't start using quotes that have been mistranslated (by people trying to prove a point or change an emphasis) to try and prove an argument

revrobuk (28-02-2007 22:59:30)

As for Leviticus these verses occur in the portion which is known as the "Holiness Code." These laws were specifically addressed to the Israelite people who were surrounded my pagan and polytheistic people and whose uniqueness in worship was constantly in danger of contamination. The observance of this code was mandated to keep them separate, to maintain their cultic purity. The word TOEBHAH which occurs in these passages is translated "abomination" and refers throughout the Old Testament specifically to practices which were considered to be characteristic of pagan idolatry. It is a religious designation and refers to any idolatrous practice, not to sexual practices.

revrobuk (28-02-2007 22:49:22)

Ah, but 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 only mentions homosexuals in the later translations. The original Greek word used is malakee (sorry, the Greek lettering is not possible here), which comes from a root word malakos which literally means "soft" (as in clothing) or sometimes "effeminate." It should also be noted that in the Greek mind the word "effeminate" did not equal "homosexual".

garethwi (28-02-2007 15:53:25)

Thanks, teeger.

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